Hi there..
Yesterday i was looking some stats in wiki for some weapons and i just notice the huge difference in prices for A3-MkII and A3-Mk.III.

If you check their stats

Mk.II:
Dmg 43 Range 71.5 cost 10.46 Dmg/pec 4.11 price tt+ 7
Mk.II+A101:
Dmg 46 Range 71.5 cost 11.12 Dmg/pec 4.13 price tt+ 20
Mk.II+A102:
Dmg 50 Range 71.5 cost 11.98 Dmg/pec 4.17 price tt+ 20
Mk.III:
Dmg 49 Range 71.5 cost 11.75 Dmg/pec 4.17 price tt+ 1111

So i am wondering,
Isnt almost the same to use an A3-MkII with A101-102 on it compared with an A3-MkIII? So why someone to pay tt+ 1111 for a Mk.III when he can use the above and pay only tt+20?

Also if someone can explain me why the gremlin gloves have this big markup? Is there something special with these gloves or its just that someone idiot some years ago bought them that expensive and stayed like that?

thanx

I couldnt tell you exactly why but its probly got to do with the fact that once you pass the A3 mk II towards more professional top end weapons prices in rifles tend to excalate rather rapidly. Also could be just a matter of rarity. Also you cant really compare the mkII + amp to mk III coz if you have a MKIII youd have a sweet amp for it too so yeh.

The MKIII has a faster reload and a slightly higher damage. Meaning Damage per second is higher.

MKIII = 35.1 DPS
MKII + A102 = 33.3 DPS
MKII + A103 = 36.7 DPS

MKIII + A105 = 46.6 DPS
MKII + A105 = 39.5 DPS

This is why the MKIII costs more. 7DPS more is a lot of damage over the course of a big hunt, or even over one mob. When you start getting to around 50DPS on guns with that range they are rare. There are not many MKIII's in the game which is why the markup is so much higher. I do agree that its not worth that much more than the mkII but more because the MKII is way underpriced. When i bough my first one i paid over tt + 100 for it. Just too many of them in game. But i have MKII at the moment and to "upgrade" now is one problem i am facing. Due to the next step being such a jump. MKIV is tt+1350 but poor range so i dont want that, MKV is over tt+8k now i believe.

ouch. Some pretty hefty figures there.

also of course topic starter is comparing mkII+a102 with an unamped mkIII, but of course it makes more sense to amp the mkIII as well.

factors are dam/sec, dam/pec, range, total cost (although some people neglect the latter expecting to earn their money back).

My opinion, and i have said this since i had 1000 rifle, and now i have 7500 rifle (ignore sig, needs updating) the MKII is the BEST gun in the game. That i used it all this time and still use it now on Atrox Alpha's is testament to that. Of course i would like a more powerful weapon, but i will never sell it.

I don't think it is that MKIII is over priced I think that MKII is under priced. Rarity also has something to do with it. As for MKII being the best gun in game I patently disagree but that is not the discussion here.

Also as someone pointed out earlier you are comparing an amped weapon to a non amped weapon which is not at all a fair comparison.

Thanx for your replies.

My post was to ask why someone to buy an Mk3 and give tt + 1111, while he can put an A102 on his existing Mk2 and save 1000+peds. He will have the 99% the same results. Of course as someone wrote Amps can be fitted on Mk3 as well (the Mk3+A105 example is not succesful, for the reason that an A105 costs tt+500....if we add 1111+500 then we go to another category of weapons stronger than mk3).
On the other hand i can ask the same question for Mk3 if i compare it with another gun. For example Fusil Charade. From wiki the stats:

fusil: dmg 51 Range 71.5 dmg/sec 34.9 Dmg/Pec 4.15 price tt+ 300
Mk3: dmg 49 Range 71.5 dmg/sec 35.1 Dmg/pec 4.17 price tt+ 1111

Their stats they are almost identical but their % difference is huge. To find a Fusil is the same with to find an Mk3 i believe. And if i was a hunter my selection would be Mk2+A102. Dont see the reason to pay tt+1111 peds for a weapon that gives the same results with the above combination. I am not sure but i believe that with +1111 you can buy better weapon from mk3.

Also noone noticed my question about the gremlin gloves. Why these gloves are so expensive? whats so special about them?

Thanx a lot again

If you look at that theres a couple things to watch. First, the attack rate is higher on an mk3 which means that when you put an amp on it you get a larger damage per second boost than on the fusil. Secondly, the gn is more economic and also cheaper to fire per shot so it gains more of an economy boost from an amp than the fusil, though by a very scant amount.

Exactly part of the point to amps is that they greatly increase economy. we are not missing your question we are answering it directly. A gun with amp is more efficient than a gun itself. That coupled with rarity is the reason why it is so expensive. The MKIII is a much better weapon and is much more rare. People buy a MKIII so that they can still attach an amp to it, get increased economy, and higher dmg/sec.

Gremlin gloves are expensive because they are rare, period.

I see from your comments that you seem to think that pricing has something to do with how "good" the item is.

In all honesty usefulness or "how good" an item is has a minimal effect on its value. Rarity has the greatest effect, followed by possible applications, followed by economy, followed by "how good" an item is.

At least that is my experience.

Long story short if a man mph dlx was the "best" fastest longest range highest dammage most efficient gun in the game it still wouldnt be worth shit because theres 30,000,000 of them around.

Great explanation. Thanks.